Ground Dwelling at the Gathering

By Pablo | Posted in shelter
August 27th, 2009

I have to say that I felt slightly more comfortable dwelling on the ground than previously during the four days of the Wilderness Gathering. It wasn’t perfect and, in my opinion, still not as good as tree-dwelling, but as you can see from the pitch, I didn’t really have many other options.

The Exped Synmat helped. I’ll do a review of this later, but being thicker than the Thermarest it helped my hips from digging into the ground. Fussy? Yes I am. Uncomfortable hero, I am not. I’ll blame it on my age!

What I didn’t get on with was the condensation. The TI Goat Vertex tipi is only single skin. Even though I slept with the door zipped open (but not fully held open) the tipi walls were still getting soaked inside. You can see the dark patches in the picture above.

Apparently, the subject of condensation is quite complex and not just a matter of respiratory condensation and lack of ventilation. It depends a lot on environment, dew points, water in the soil, surrounding landscape, wind patterns, time of year, day and night temperatures, height above/below sea level and dew fall. (Thanks Rohan for this info).

Of course more ventilation would have helped as would a second skin. I expect a ground sheet would also have assisted. But I must say, it’s not given me a huge amount of confidence to get out there and ground-dwell on a regular basis. Not in a single skin tipi anyway.

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You have to be careful of the sleeping bag you use as well. I have a synthetic summer bag which can deal with damp, but in the winter, my down bag would probably get drenched (unless the condensation turns to ice like it did in January – pic above)

I must say though when all is said and done, you can’t beat a view like this when you wake up in the morning.

Thanks for the visit.

Pablo.

5 Responses to "Ground Dwelling at the Gathering"

  1. sam_acw says:

    What’s the tent made from? Maybe you should go old ashioned and try a cooton canvas one? Or keep a fire inside it :)

  2. Pablo says:

    Good point Sam. The tent is made from syn-nylon (ultra, ultra light). Perhaps a heavier traditional canvas will be better, but I don’t usually have the car so near and I’d be concerned about the weight.

  3. Karl says:

    It looks like you weren’t using a tent floor. If that’s the case, the grass will give off huge amounts of dampness inside the closed space (your tent is).
    Try it again with a tent floor (as long as the floor fabric isn’t water permeable, it’ll work), and you’ll notice a huge difference. Maybe even so big that you wouldn’t have had any condensation in the tent at the moot at all.
    / Karl

  4. Pablo says:

    Thanks Karl. Good point.

  5. alan dean says:

    Hi Pablo,
    I’m fascinated to hear you mention “tree dwelling”
    As a boy I made a great den up in a huge old elm tree ( that dates me doesn’t it?)but was not allowed to sleep up there. wonder why.!
    Care to elaborate on your experiences ?

    Thanks,

    Alan

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